1 00:00:05,430 --> 00:00:02,950 love this podcast support this show 2 00:00:07,269 --> 00:00:05,440 through the acast supporter feature 3 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:07,279 it's up to you how much you give and 4 00:00:10,390 --> 00:00:09,120 there's no regular commitment 5 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:10,400 just click the link in the show 6 00:00:15,749 --> 00:00:11,970 description to support now 7 00:00:21,029 --> 00:00:18,790 ufos seem to be invading both our skies 8 00:00:23,189 --> 00:00:21,039 and our news outlets like never before 9 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:23,199 and more people are starting to look up 10 00:00:26,790 --> 00:00:25,920 and are wondering who or what might be 11 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:26,800 out there 12 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:29,439 in 2016 ryan sprague introduced the 13 00:00:33,590 --> 00:00:31,599 world to countless ufo encounters that 14 00:00:35,750 --> 00:00:33,600 had never been made public before 15 00:00:37,830 --> 00:00:35,760 and now in the second edition of his 16 00:00:40,549 --> 00:00:37,840 book he revisits these events and 17 00:00:42,950 --> 00:00:40,559 introduces brand new ufo cases 18 00:00:43,990 --> 00:00:42,960 in somewhere in the skies a human 19 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:44,000 approach to the ufo 20 00:00:48,549 --> 00:00:46,640 phenomenon how have these events changed 21 00:00:49,910 --> 00:00:48,559 the lives of those involved 22 00:00:52,709 --> 00:00:49,920 and what might it tell us about the 23 00:00:54,549 --> 00:00:52,719 phenomenon with in-depth follow-ups 24 00:00:56,549 --> 00:00:54,559 brand new chapters and detailed 25 00:00:58,549 --> 00:00:56,559 testimony from credible witnesses and 26 00:01:01,189 --> 00:00:58,559 insight from those in the psychological 27 00:01:02,310 --> 00:01:01,199 academic and scientific fields somewhere 28 00:01:04,950 --> 00:01:02,320 in the skies 29 00:01:07,429 --> 00:01:04,960 a human approach to the ufo phenomenon 30 00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:07,439 weaves together a story of stories 31 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:09,119 attempting to get to the heart of these 32 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:11,840 mysteries one experience at a time 33 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:13,600 available now on amazon in both 34 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:15,360 paperback and ebook 35 00:01:30,310 --> 00:01:24,830 [Music] 36 00:01:38,830 --> 00:01:33,520 this is somewhere in the skies with ryan 37 00:01:56,850 --> 00:01:41,810 spread 38 00:01:56,860 --> 00:02:00,310 [Music] 39 00:02:06,550 --> 00:02:03,749 my name is benedict i'm 36 years old i 40 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:06,560 am i'm originally icelandic but i've 41 00:02:10,630 --> 00:02:06,960 been 42 00:02:14,390 --> 00:02:10,640 years i am also a 43 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:14,400 technology student i had a pretty crazy 44 00:02:19,430 --> 00:02:16,959 experience in 2010 45 00:02:21,750 --> 00:02:19,440 at that point i was already very into 46 00:02:24,070 --> 00:02:21,760 ufos i was researching and i was 47 00:02:27,270 --> 00:02:24,080 actually writing a blog about it 48 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:27,280 i was also into kind of a paranormal 49 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:30,640 and kind of occult 50 00:02:37,430 --> 00:02:34,720 magic ritual stuff so i 51 00:02:39,350 --> 00:02:37,440 i was into something called sigil magic 52 00:02:40,070 --> 00:02:39,360 this is kind of a technique that you use 53 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:40,080 to 54 00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:43,280 and i 55 00:02:48,070 --> 00:02:45,599 i did this ritual to try to make contact 56 00:02:51,110 --> 00:02:48,080 with ufos or ets 57 00:02:52,949 --> 00:02:51,120 sometime after this i was getting ready 58 00:02:54,229 --> 00:02:52,959 to go to work i was working a night 59 00:02:57,270 --> 00:02:54,239 shift at a hotel so 60 00:03:00,710 --> 00:02:57,280 it was late at night the minute i 61 00:03:03,750 --> 00:03:00,720 pulled up my curtains i could see this 62 00:03:05,110 --> 00:03:03,760 glowing object in the sky i knew 63 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:05,120 straight away that it was 64 00:03:11,430 --> 00:03:08,400 uh something extraordinary so i just it 65 00:03:14,550 --> 00:03:11,440 i looked at it for one second and then i 66 00:03:16,390 --> 00:03:14,560 i ran out to the driveway um 67 00:03:17,750 --> 00:03:16,400 when i got to the driveway i saw there 68 00:03:21,270 --> 00:03:17,760 were three of these 69 00:03:22,309 --> 00:03:21,280 objects in kind of the same area of the 70 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:22,319 sky 71 00:03:27,270 --> 00:03:26,239 they were just glowing orbs of light 72 00:03:30,949 --> 00:03:27,280 really 73 00:03:34,949 --> 00:03:30,959 kind of golden reddish very intensely 74 00:03:36,869 --> 00:03:34,959 glowing lights they were moving slowly 75 00:03:39,990 --> 00:03:36,879 around this the same area 76 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:40,000 and they were kind of playing with each 77 00:03:43,509 --> 00:03:40,400 other 78 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:43,519 i could see one time they made a 79 00:03:49,750 --> 00:03:46,640 right angle triangle at five different 80 00:03:53,110 --> 00:03:49,760 occasions they kind of powered up this 81 00:03:55,350 --> 00:03:53,120 insanely to this insane intensity 82 00:03:56,949 --> 00:03:55,360 like like ten times the intensity that 83 00:03:59,750 --> 00:03:56,959 it was originally and 84 00:04:01,670 --> 00:03:59,760 the original intensity was very very 85 00:04:04,149 --> 00:04:01,680 intense also 86 00:04:06,070 --> 00:04:04,159 so they would hold this new intensity 87 00:04:07,990 --> 00:04:06,080 for maybe six to nine seconds and then 88 00:04:10,309 --> 00:04:08,000 they would go down again 89 00:04:11,110 --> 00:04:10,319 the the power-up sequences made me feel 90 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:11,120 like there was 91 00:04:15,190 --> 00:04:13,040 kind of this enormous amount of energy 92 00:04:18,069 --> 00:04:15,200 being channeled into our 93 00:04:18,949 --> 00:04:18,079 our reality like there was some kind of 94 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:18,959 reservoir 95 00:04:23,430 --> 00:04:22,000 being pumped in it was like all the 96 00:04:26,150 --> 00:04:23,440 colors of the spectrum just 97 00:04:27,189 --> 00:04:26,160 radiating at once from the from the from 98 00:04:29,110 --> 00:04:27,199 the point 99 00:04:30,710 --> 00:04:29,120 they were kind of putting on a show for 100 00:04:34,629 --> 00:04:30,720 me 101 00:04:36,950 --> 00:04:34,639 best is you know they were kind of 102 00:04:38,550 --> 00:04:36,960 fading in and out sometimes it was fade 103 00:04:39,670 --> 00:04:38,560 out and then it was come back into 104 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:39,680 reality 105 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:42,960 so this this maneuver that i remember is 106 00:04:46,150 --> 00:04:45,440 uh one of them would fade in at one 107 00:04:48,150 --> 00:04:46,160 place 108 00:04:49,189 --> 00:04:48,160 another one would fade in a little bit 109 00:04:53,030 --> 00:04:49,199 above and 110 00:04:56,150 --> 00:04:53,040 to the right and move over the first one 111 00:04:59,670 --> 00:04:56,160 and the moment it kind of was 112 00:05:00,710 --> 00:04:59,680 just above the first one the the lower 113 00:05:03,830 --> 00:05:00,720 one would 114 00:05:07,510 --> 00:05:03,840 light up as i just uh described 115 00:05:10,710 --> 00:05:07,520 to an insane intensity 116 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:10,720 watching the phenomenon movie i i saw 117 00:05:14,629 --> 00:05:13,360 one person describe the ufos i saw as if 118 00:05:17,510 --> 00:05:14,639 they were looking 119 00:05:18,070 --> 00:05:17,520 down at a hot coal this was very similar 120 00:05:20,070 --> 00:05:18,080 to what 121 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:20,080 i would describe with this ufos it was 122 00:05:25,510 --> 00:05:22,240 just a glowing object 123 00:05:27,590 --> 00:05:25,520 that was glowing from all directions so 124 00:05:30,310 --> 00:05:27,600 i was actually watching this thing for 125 00:05:32,710 --> 00:05:30,320 uh about 90 minutes in total 126 00:05:34,230 --> 00:05:32,720 uh i was standing outside in the cold 127 00:05:36,230 --> 00:05:34,240 just watching this and 128 00:05:37,749 --> 00:05:36,240 when they when they were lighting up i 129 00:05:41,510 --> 00:05:37,759 just kind of 130 00:05:43,189 --> 00:05:41,520 i screamed of joy it was just so intense 131 00:05:46,629 --> 00:05:43,199 for me 132 00:05:49,909 --> 00:05:46,639 so the experience ended with three 133 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,919 military planes as i i i could i 134 00:05:53,909 --> 00:05:51,360 identify them as 135 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:53,919 the type of hercules planes they were 136 00:05:59,189 --> 00:05:56,000 big propeller driven planes 137 00:06:02,629 --> 00:05:59,199 they came from the direction behind me 138 00:06:09,029 --> 00:06:06,150 the middle one flew i think maybe 139 00:06:09,670 --> 00:06:09,039 about 500 meters straight above my head 140 00:06:11,350 --> 00:06:09,680 and they were 141 00:06:13,990 --> 00:06:11,360 they were going in the direction of 142 00:06:16,309 --> 00:06:14,000 these lights these objects 143 00:06:18,070 --> 00:06:16,319 the middle plane that flew over my head 144 00:06:20,629 --> 00:06:18,080 flew in a straight 145 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:20,639 line in the collision course towards one 146 00:06:25,189 --> 00:06:21,759 of the 147 00:06:26,230 --> 00:06:25,199 stationary ufos and it flew extremely 148 00:06:28,150 --> 00:06:26,240 close to it 149 00:06:29,270 --> 00:06:28,160 i was standing on the ground there and i 150 00:06:33,670 --> 00:06:29,280 was 151 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:33,680 into it but in in the last second the 152 00:06:37,430 --> 00:06:34,560 airplane 153 00:06:37,830 --> 00:06:37,440 very abruptly turned to the right i 154 00:06:39,990 --> 00:06:37,840 think 155 00:06:40,950 --> 00:06:40,000 it must have turned as fast as this type 156 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:40,960 of airplane can 157 00:06:47,350 --> 00:06:44,000 turn it looks very dramatic 158 00:06:50,469 --> 00:06:47,360 and you can just imagine three of these 159 00:06:51,430 --> 00:06:50,479 big hercules planes flying low over the 160 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:51,440 town it was just 161 00:06:55,830 --> 00:06:54,240 a massive sound it was like a scene out 162 00:06:58,390 --> 00:06:55,840 of a movie really 163 00:07:00,309 --> 00:06:58,400 shortly after these planes came and 164 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:00,319 confronted them i 165 00:07:05,350 --> 00:07:03,120 i had to go to work so i had to leave 166 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:05,360 the area 167 00:07:08,790 --> 00:07:07,440 there were a lot of things that points 168 00:07:11,909 --> 00:07:08,800 me in the direction that 169 00:07:14,469 --> 00:07:11,919 this experience was put on for me 170 00:07:15,909 --> 00:07:14,479 personally i know it sounds crazy but 171 00:07:16,950 --> 00:07:15,919 it's the only thing that makes sense to 172 00:07:19,990 --> 00:07:16,960 me 173 00:07:21,909 --> 00:07:20,000 not only that i did this magic ritual to 174 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:21,919 try to attract this experience and and 175 00:07:25,589 --> 00:07:22,800 then it happened 176 00:07:26,469 --> 00:07:25,599 um this had this happened on the 20th of 177 00:07:29,749 --> 00:07:26,479 october 178 00:07:33,110 --> 00:07:29,759 2010 before and after 20 179 00:07:34,150 --> 00:07:33,120 10 o'clock so in in the time format of 180 00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:34,160 my country it 181 00:07:41,670 --> 00:07:37,599 it happened 2010 2010 2010. 182 00:07:45,670 --> 00:07:41,680 it's triple 2010 there were three ufos 183 00:07:47,830 --> 00:07:45,680 there were three airplanes it just 184 00:07:48,790 --> 00:07:47,840 the symmetry of the date makes me feel 185 00:07:51,830 --> 00:07:48,800 that they 186 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:51,840 they have they have a 187 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:54,080 complete control of our time system down 188 00:07:56,790 --> 00:07:55,039 to the minute 189 00:07:58,629 --> 00:07:56,800 and i think it was kind of a 190 00:08:00,309 --> 00:07:58,639 demonstration that this wasn't a random 191 00:08:02,230 --> 00:08:00,319 event 192 00:08:03,430 --> 00:08:02,240 another thing that makes me think this 193 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:03,440 is that 194 00:08:07,270 --> 00:08:05,280 the window i first looked at looked out 195 00:08:09,189 --> 00:08:07,280 to see them the first time 196 00:08:10,469 --> 00:08:09,199 there are a lot of trees in front of the 197 00:08:12,790 --> 00:08:10,479 windows so 198 00:08:13,510 --> 00:08:12,800 there's actually a very a little patch 199 00:08:16,710 --> 00:08:13,520 of clear 200 00:08:18,150 --> 00:08:16,720 sky and this ufo was in the middle of 201 00:08:22,309 --> 00:08:18,160 this patch 202 00:08:25,110 --> 00:08:22,319 so it that's kind of strange also 203 00:08:26,309 --> 00:08:25,120 sometime while i was standing there 204 00:08:29,670 --> 00:08:26,319 watching this i 205 00:08:31,350 --> 00:08:29,680 i had a good view um in general but i 206 00:08:34,149 --> 00:08:31,360 felt if i walked a little bit down the 207 00:08:35,589 --> 00:08:34,159 street i would have an even better view 208 00:08:38,630 --> 00:08:35,599 so i tried to walk 209 00:08:39,750 --> 00:08:38,640 down the street but then they just 210 00:08:42,790 --> 00:08:39,760 disappeared 211 00:08:44,550 --> 00:08:42,800 and there was nothing so 212 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:44,560 the moment i walked back to the to my 213 00:08:50,630 --> 00:08:46,160 driveway it started up again 214 00:08:53,269 --> 00:08:50,640 with the show the last thing is that 215 00:08:54,550 --> 00:08:53,279 the maneuvers they did it really looked 216 00:08:56,710 --> 00:08:54,560 like they were 217 00:08:58,550 --> 00:08:56,720 performing something like on a screen 218 00:09:01,190 --> 00:08:58,560 for me 219 00:09:01,910 --> 00:09:01,200 the maneuver where the one was was uh 220 00:09:05,269 --> 00:09:01,920 flying 221 00:09:07,190 --> 00:09:05,279 over the other one it was just perfectly 222 00:09:08,230 --> 00:09:07,200 aligned for me to be able to see what 223 00:09:10,550 --> 00:09:08,240 was happening 224 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:10,560 and then the airplanes coming straight 225 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:11,440 over my head from 226 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:14,480 from the other side it's just 227 00:09:18,630 --> 00:09:17,600 it just feels so symmetrical i don't 228 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:18,640 know 229 00:09:23,030 --> 00:09:21,600 i tried i've tried many times over the 230 00:09:25,030 --> 00:09:23,040 years to get some answers from the 231 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:25,040 military here in norway but they're 232 00:09:28,070 --> 00:09:27,760 not sharing anything they're not they're 233 00:09:30,630 --> 00:09:28,080 not 234 00:09:32,470 --> 00:09:30,640 even lying to me and telling me that it 235 00:09:35,269 --> 00:09:32,480 was some kind of exercise that just 236 00:09:36,790 --> 00:09:35,279 there's no trace of this uh this 237 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:36,800 incident 238 00:09:39,590 --> 00:09:38,160 i'm convinced this were these were 239 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:39,600 military planes there were three 240 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:41,120 gigantic uh 241 00:09:45,750 --> 00:09:43,680 propeller driven planes and doing these 242 00:09:46,710 --> 00:09:45,760 kind of maneuvers i don't think a 243 00:09:50,310 --> 00:09:46,720 private 244 00:09:52,070 --> 00:09:50,320 entity would or a civilian entity would 245 00:09:54,550 --> 00:09:52,080 do something like that 246 00:09:55,110 --> 00:09:54,560 actually it makes me feel that they did 247 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:55,120 something 248 00:10:01,590 --> 00:09:58,959 very risky by flying an airplane into 249 00:10:02,550 --> 00:10:01,600 this unknown object in the sky they they 250 00:10:05,910 --> 00:10:02,560 had no idea 251 00:10:06,870 --> 00:10:05,920 of knowing what this object was going to 252 00:10:10,949 --> 00:10:06,880 do 253 00:10:13,990 --> 00:10:10,959 feels very 254 00:10:17,350 --> 00:10:14,000 risky to me but at the same time i'm 255 00:10:18,069 --> 00:10:17,360 i'm i'm glad i got to see something as 256 00:10:21,190 --> 00:10:18,079 extraordinary 257 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:21,200 as that in the end for me i 258 00:10:24,870 --> 00:10:23,200 i was kind i was very convinced about 259 00:10:26,790 --> 00:10:24,880 the ufo reality anyway because i had 260 00:10:29,269 --> 00:10:26,800 been studying the history so this 261 00:10:34,710 --> 00:10:29,279 this was just a big confirmation for me 262 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:37,990 hi ryan hi everyone this is alexa from 263 00:10:43,190 --> 00:10:40,160 the pacific northwest 264 00:10:45,829 --> 00:10:43,200 and my sighting happened 265 00:10:47,269 --> 00:10:45,839 when i was in 7th grade in about two 266 00:10:49,750 --> 00:10:47,279 thousand 267 00:10:51,030 --> 00:10:49,760 this was in a town 20 miles north of 268 00:10:53,990 --> 00:10:51,040 seattle 269 00:10:55,829 --> 00:10:54,000 and it was much less developed back then 270 00:10:59,110 --> 00:10:55,839 than it is now 271 00:11:01,350 --> 00:10:59,120 but at the time my mom dad and i 272 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:01,360 would go on drives in the evening after 273 00:11:05,509 --> 00:11:02,640 dinner 274 00:11:08,069 --> 00:11:05,519 and this particular time it must have 275 00:11:10,790 --> 00:11:08,079 been during winter break from school 276 00:11:11,829 --> 00:11:10,800 because i seem to recall this was on a 277 00:11:14,870 --> 00:11:11,839 week night 278 00:11:17,910 --> 00:11:14,880 and it was dark early 279 00:11:18,310 --> 00:11:17,920 so we were driving a new route out a 280 00:11:21,990 --> 00:11:18,320 little 281 00:11:25,110 --> 00:11:22,000 further than usual just exploring 282 00:11:27,910 --> 00:11:25,120 and i remember the car 283 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:27,920 being silent but it's possible that my 284 00:11:31,670 --> 00:11:29,120 parents 285 00:11:32,790 --> 00:11:31,680 were chatting up front i was sitting in 286 00:11:35,750 --> 00:11:32,800 the back seat 287 00:11:36,630 --> 00:11:35,760 lost in my own thoughts and staring out 288 00:11:39,910 --> 00:11:36,640 the window 289 00:11:40,710 --> 00:11:39,920 into the winter darkness we turned down 290 00:11:43,670 --> 00:11:40,720 a road 291 00:11:45,030 --> 00:11:43,680 with trees on both sides and on the 292 00:11:47,670 --> 00:11:45,040 right side 293 00:11:49,269 --> 00:11:47,680 there was a low slope with some houses 294 00:11:52,310 --> 00:11:49,279 at the top 295 00:11:52,870 --> 00:11:52,320 i think about i seem to recall or 296 00:11:56,790 --> 00:11:52,880 remember 297 00:11:59,829 --> 00:11:56,800 three houses they were built 298 00:12:03,110 --> 00:11:59,839 into the hillside and they had those 299 00:12:03,590 --> 00:12:03,120 decks that were built on stilts because 300 00:12:05,190 --> 00:12:03,600 if you 301 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:05,200 you know walked out your back door you 302 00:12:10,710 --> 00:12:06,880 would just fall straight down the hill 303 00:12:16,389 --> 00:12:13,750 i was pulled away from whichever 304 00:12:18,389 --> 00:12:16,399 middle school drama i was contemplating 305 00:12:21,670 --> 00:12:18,399 at the time 306 00:12:22,389 --> 00:12:21,680 with the sudden thought that's a really 307 00:12:25,829 --> 00:12:22,399 big 308 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:25,839 bug zapper you know maybe we were 309 00:12:31,030 --> 00:12:28,480 traveling at about 25 miles per hour 310 00:12:32,470 --> 00:12:31,040 on a semi-rural road that was dark in 311 00:12:34,790 --> 00:12:32,480 the winter 312 00:12:36,870 --> 00:12:34,800 but these three houses had some lights 313 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:36,880 on inside 314 00:12:41,430 --> 00:12:39,839 and i can see what i am assuming is a 315 00:12:44,790 --> 00:12:41,440 large bug zapper 316 00:12:48,790 --> 00:12:44,800 hanging from the roof of 317 00:12:51,670 --> 00:12:48,800 the closest house to us 318 00:12:52,629 --> 00:12:51,680 on the top of the hill uh like hanging 319 00:12:57,030 --> 00:12:52,639 from the roof 320 00:13:00,870 --> 00:12:57,040 right above the deck i could see lights 321 00:13:04,829 --> 00:13:00,880 through the trees that were not part of 322 00:13:11,509 --> 00:13:08,230 and it was a large 323 00:13:14,069 --> 00:13:11,519 rectangular hanging bug zapper 324 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:14,079 at least that's what i thought i could 325 00:13:18,389 --> 00:13:14,560 see 326 00:13:20,710 --> 00:13:18,399 until we got closer and i realized that 327 00:13:23,829 --> 00:13:20,720 this thing is at the wrong angle 328 00:13:25,430 --> 00:13:23,839 to be something hanging from an awning 329 00:13:30,230 --> 00:13:25,440 or whatever 330 00:13:34,710 --> 00:13:30,240 in fact what i'm looking at is a large 331 00:13:38,389 --> 00:13:34,720 black floating rectangle 332 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:38,399 hovering over the roof of this house 333 00:13:45,590 --> 00:13:42,160 the best way that i could describe it 334 00:13:48,230 --> 00:13:45,600 is that if you took a standard black 335 00:13:51,509 --> 00:13:48,240 tv remote and held it up with the 336 00:13:54,949 --> 00:13:51,519 buttons facing down 337 00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:54,959 except in the very center of this thing 338 00:14:01,350 --> 00:13:58,079 is a single round red 339 00:14:02,150 --> 00:14:01,360 light a big red light and in place of 340 00:14:05,189 --> 00:14:02,160 all the other 341 00:14:08,389 --> 00:14:05,199 remote buttons are hundreds of smaller 342 00:14:11,910 --> 00:14:08,399 golden white lights 343 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:11,920 my parents didn't see it i didn't 344 00:14:18,870 --> 00:14:14,959 say anything mainly because 345 00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:18,880 i had this feeling like i saw something 346 00:14:24,949 --> 00:14:21,920 that i wasn't supposed to see 347 00:14:28,790 --> 00:14:24,959 and i was trying to convince myself 348 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:28,800 that i didn't see it the phoenix lights 349 00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:31,199 were in the news only a few years before 350 00:14:35,430 --> 00:14:34,320 and my parents watched the x-files so i 351 00:14:39,590 --> 00:14:35,440 knew about 352 00:14:44,069 --> 00:14:39,600 ufos but i had never heard of a hovering 353 00:14:47,509 --> 00:14:44,079 black rectangle and it wasn't until 354 00:14:49,829 --> 00:14:47,519 about 2017 when i was reading 355 00:14:51,189 --> 00:14:49,839 the book hudson valley ufos by linda 356 00:14:54,230 --> 00:14:51,199 zimmerman 357 00:14:57,430 --> 00:14:54,240 when i turned to page 51 358 00:14:59,030 --> 00:14:57,440 that i ever heard of them again and this 359 00:15:02,069 --> 00:14:59,040 book in fact has a small 360 00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:02,079 chapter on unidentified flying 361 00:15:08,550 --> 00:15:04,639 rectangles but there are only maybe two 362 00:15:11,590 --> 00:15:11,030 and really this book is the only good 363 00:15:14,629 --> 00:15:11,600 info 364 00:15:17,509 --> 00:15:14,639 on such a thing flying rectangles that i 365 00:15:20,949 --> 00:15:17,519 could really find 366 00:15:23,269 --> 00:15:20,959 the main thing i remember feeling 367 00:15:25,110 --> 00:15:23,279 during the sighting was like i had 368 00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:25,120 walked into a room 369 00:15:28,629 --> 00:15:27,279 saw something that i wasn't supposed to 370 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:28,639 see 371 00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,680 and then tried to convince myself i 372 00:15:37,670 --> 00:15:33,519 didn't see it 373 00:15:41,269 --> 00:15:37,680 it was like i didn't want to believe it 374 00:15:42,790 --> 00:15:41,279 or felt like i should forget that i did 375 00:15:45,670 --> 00:15:42,800 see it 376 00:15:47,910 --> 00:15:45,680 you know kind of like pay no attention 377 00:15:52,150 --> 00:15:47,920 to the man behind the curtain 378 00:15:58,870 --> 00:15:56,150 i don't know what it was but 379 00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:58,880 now i would probably say it had to be 380 00:16:04,150 --> 00:16:00,639 some kind of 381 00:16:07,749 --> 00:16:04,160 military craft maybe a drone or 382 00:16:11,110 --> 00:16:07,759 some kind of projection even but 383 00:16:15,269 --> 00:16:11,120 why a rectangle why hovering over 384 00:16:17,990 --> 00:16:15,279 a suburban house it just seems 385 00:16:20,069 --> 00:16:18,000 like a lot of strange choices and to 386 00:16:24,389 --> 00:16:20,079 this day 387 00:16:30,550 --> 00:16:26,790 that's the end of my story thanks for 388 00:16:33,910 --> 00:16:33,110 all right so uh my name is jake i'm 389 00:16:37,509 --> 00:16:33,920 going to 390 00:16:40,550 --> 00:16:37,519 talk about a ufo encounter that i had in 391 00:16:42,870 --> 00:16:40,560 the autumn of 2015. 392 00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:42,880 this took place in a rural part of 393 00:16:47,590 --> 00:16:44,399 central maine 394 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:47,600 and it happened on my family's property 395 00:16:51,829 --> 00:16:49,279 we live on a property on the top of a 396 00:16:52,949 --> 00:16:51,839 hill the population of our town is about 397 00:16:56,310 --> 00:16:52,959 four thousand so 398 00:16:57,430 --> 00:16:56,320 pretty small the property is about a 399 00:17:00,150 --> 00:16:57,440 square acre 400 00:17:02,069 --> 00:17:00,160 and the house is right about the center 401 00:17:04,390 --> 00:17:02,079 of that acre 402 00:17:05,189 --> 00:17:04,400 the yard around it is fairly sizable on 403 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:05,199 three sides 404 00:17:09,270 --> 00:17:07,360 it's surrounded by the woods and then 405 00:17:11,350 --> 00:17:09,280 the other side faces the road 406 00:17:13,270 --> 00:17:11,360 i do have neighbors but not really 407 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:13,280 neighbors in the traditional 408 00:17:18,710 --> 00:17:16,799 suburban sense or just similarly sized 409 00:17:20,150 --> 00:17:18,720 properties kind of dotted along a back 410 00:17:23,510 --> 00:17:20,160 road 411 00:17:25,110 --> 00:17:23,520 so anyway i was home alone and i took my 412 00:17:27,189 --> 00:17:25,120 dogs out to the backyard 413 00:17:28,470 --> 00:17:27,199 at around 11 pm so that they could go to 414 00:17:30,150 --> 00:17:28,480 the bathroom and i could smoke a 415 00:17:32,070 --> 00:17:30,160 cigarette 416 00:17:34,310 --> 00:17:32,080 this was a nightly thing at the time and 417 00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:34,320 nothing weird had ever happened 418 00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:36,799 we were outside for probably a few 419 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:39,039 minutes maybe five 420 00:17:42,310 --> 00:17:40,960 and uh we finished up i finished my 421 00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:42,320 cigarette my dogs finished 422 00:17:47,190 --> 00:17:45,039 doing their business and i walked them 423 00:17:49,669 --> 00:17:47,200 right up to the back porch 424 00:17:51,110 --> 00:17:49,679 and as soon as the dogs kind of crossed 425 00:17:52,950 --> 00:17:51,120 the threshold into the house 426 00:17:54,630 --> 00:17:52,960 from the back porch i just hear this 427 00:17:57,909 --> 00:17:54,640 really weird 428 00:18:01,110 --> 00:17:57,919 sort of humming noise coming from 429 00:18:03,190 --> 00:18:01,120 just above coming from the sky it's 430 00:18:06,390 --> 00:18:03,200 really really hard sound to describe 431 00:18:09,590 --> 00:18:06,400 it's sort of engine like but 432 00:18:12,549 --> 00:18:09,600 not really it was very otherworldly uh i 433 00:18:13,110 --> 00:18:12,559 kind of have compared it to the sound of 434 00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,120 like 435 00:18:16,630 --> 00:18:15,440 the boiler room when the heat kicks on 436 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:16,640 but again that's 437 00:18:22,070 --> 00:18:19,840 really an approximation so 438 00:18:23,350 --> 00:18:22,080 it was just this really weird strange 439 00:18:26,310 --> 00:18:23,360 reverberating 440 00:18:27,110 --> 00:18:26,320 low frequency hum it immediately got my 441 00:18:29,190 --> 00:18:27,120 attention 442 00:18:31,350 --> 00:18:29,200 as it seemed to kind of fill my ears 443 00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:31,360 drowning out all the other noises 444 00:18:34,390 --> 00:18:33,600 i let the dogs inside they didn't seem 445 00:18:36,870 --> 00:18:34,400 to notice 446 00:18:37,830 --> 00:18:36,880 as far as i could tell but at the same 447 00:18:40,950 --> 00:18:37,840 time i wasn't 448 00:18:42,789 --> 00:18:40,960 exactly focused on their reaction at all 449 00:18:45,190 --> 00:18:42,799 but it did seem like they didn't they 450 00:18:47,830 --> 00:18:45,200 didn't pay it any mind 451 00:18:49,190 --> 00:18:47,840 so i let them in and turned around to 452 00:18:53,350 --> 00:18:49,200 see what was making the noise 453 00:18:56,310 --> 00:18:53,360 and after a few seconds i see this 454 00:18:57,430 --> 00:18:56,320 i guess rhombus shaped diamond like a 3d 455 00:18:59,510 --> 00:18:57,440 diamond 456 00:19:01,190 --> 00:18:59,520 the nose end of it was longer than the 457 00:19:05,110 --> 00:19:01,200 tail end of it 458 00:19:07,909 --> 00:19:05,120 and it's just uh it's hovering 459 00:19:09,350 --> 00:19:07,919 above the tree lines maybe just a couple 460 00:19:12,630 --> 00:19:09,360 feet above the trees 461 00:19:15,669 --> 00:19:12,640 so really only 30 462 00:19:17,510 --> 00:19:15,679 35 feet above the ground it's this this 463 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:17,520 really big diamond shaped 464 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:20,960 and it was uh 465 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,880 black glass like the whole texture of 466 00:19:27,590 --> 00:19:24,480 the thing was just this 467 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:27,600 seamless black glass and then the 468 00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,480 edges of the rhombus were all kind of 469 00:19:34,710 --> 00:19:32,320 lit up i almost imagine like 470 00:19:36,630 --> 00:19:34,720 like led strip lighting that's really 471 00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:36,640 the closest like human thing i can think 472 00:19:39,270 --> 00:19:37,679 of 473 00:19:42,150 --> 00:19:39,280 so it was edged out with all these 474 00:19:45,510 --> 00:19:42,160 little kind of sparkling lights 475 00:19:47,110 --> 00:19:45,520 and uh it just just it's hovering 476 00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,120 along the tree line kind of making its 477 00:19:51,830 --> 00:19:49,679 way across my yard 478 00:19:53,270 --> 00:19:51,840 and i just remember being completely 479 00:19:56,150 --> 00:19:53,280 frozen 480 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:56,160 both with fear and kind of awe like 481 00:20:03,909 --> 00:20:00,870 it's moving at a low speed just sort of 482 00:20:06,070 --> 00:20:03,919 sauntering at about 10 miles or so 483 00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:06,080 so very very slowly just moving along 484 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:07,760 the yard 485 00:20:10,950 --> 00:20:10,240 uh it seemed i remember thinking that it 486 00:20:14,950 --> 00:20:10,960 was it 487 00:20:16,310 --> 00:20:14,960 looked very large and dense and 488 00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:16,320 it didn't seem like something that could 489 00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:18,559 hover like that because it was just this 490 00:20:22,310 --> 00:20:21,280 giant thing so it just glides right 491 00:20:25,430 --> 00:20:22,320 along the trees 492 00:20:27,029 --> 00:20:25,440 and the other thing that i noticed uh 493 00:20:29,750 --> 00:20:27,039 was that the trees didn't move 494 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:29,760 at all like like i could imagine if it 495 00:20:32,390 --> 00:20:31,120 was a giant drone 496 00:20:34,470 --> 00:20:32,400 then there would have been kind of like 497 00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:34,480 a vortex created by the 498 00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:35,919 propellers that kept it up that would 499 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,080 have knocked the trees around 500 00:20:41,350 --> 00:20:39,679 but there was nothing it was not 501 00:20:45,110 --> 00:20:41,360 interacting with the world around it 502 00:20:45,830 --> 00:20:45,120 at all it was just uh it was like it was 503 00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:45,840 there but 504 00:20:49,590 --> 00:20:48,240 it was it was doing its own thing it 505 00:20:51,830 --> 00:20:49,600 wasn't interacting with the world 506 00:20:53,510 --> 00:20:51,840 around it which i thought was very very 507 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:53,520 strange 508 00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:57,280 um so i remember it's coming from 509 00:21:02,230 --> 00:20:59,679 the right side of the tree line and over 510 00:21:04,950 --> 00:21:02,240 the course of a couple seconds it it 511 00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,960 kind of saunters away from me at the 512 00:21:07,270 --> 00:21:05,760 same speed 513 00:21:09,669 --> 00:21:07,280 to the point where i couldn't see it 514 00:21:13,510 --> 00:21:09,679 behind the trees after a certain point 515 00:21:16,470 --> 00:21:13,520 and i remember it maybe lasted about 516 00:21:18,230 --> 00:21:16,480 15-20 seconds of this thing kind of 517 00:21:20,470 --> 00:21:18,240 making its presence known 518 00:21:22,470 --> 00:21:20,480 and i remember making a very strong 519 00:21:23,510 --> 00:21:22,480 conscious effort not to blink or look 520 00:21:25,909 --> 00:21:23,520 away 521 00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:25,919 or flinch or anything because i i can 522 00:21:29,830 --> 00:21:27,039 immediately tell how 523 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:29,840 important this experience was and i 524 00:21:32,950 --> 00:21:30,640 needed to do 525 00:21:35,190 --> 00:21:32,960 everything in my power to to kind of 526 00:21:38,230 --> 00:21:35,200 look at it and face up to it 527 00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:38,240 that's about as rational as it gets as i 528 00:21:42,070 --> 00:21:38,559 was 529 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:42,080 fear 530 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:45,679 i could imagine um like i remember 531 00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:48,640 hearing on a different podcast uh like 532 00:21:51,990 --> 00:21:50,400 if you if you imagine being a bear in 533 00:21:54,070 --> 00:21:52,000 the woods and all of a sudden 534 00:21:55,830 --> 00:21:54,080 this giant metal bird flies down and 535 00:21:57,430 --> 00:21:55,840 then people come out of it they 536 00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:57,440 they shoot you with this weird dart gun 537 00:22:00,070 --> 00:21:59,039 and then you pass out and then you wake 538 00:22:01,510 --> 00:22:00,080 up and you have this weird thing 539 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:01,520 attached to your ear 540 00:22:05,350 --> 00:22:03,600 and you have no idea what just happened 541 00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:05,360 to you it's just this really weird 542 00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:06,720 thing just happened and you don't have 543 00:22:11,510 --> 00:22:10,000 any sort of frame of reference to 544 00:22:13,590 --> 00:22:11,520 compare it to anything that's that's 545 00:22:14,310 --> 00:22:13,600 kind of how i felt i felt like the 546 00:22:16,549 --> 00:22:14,320 grizzly bear 547 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,559 being being tagged by the by the 548 00:22:21,909 --> 00:22:18,640 researchers or something 549 00:22:24,870 --> 00:22:21,919 um so anyway i just it 550 00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,880 it slowly gets farther and farther away 551 00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:26,080 from me and i can still hear 552 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:28,159 it but it's i can't see it anymore and 553 00:22:32,310 --> 00:22:29,200 the sound of it is 554 00:22:33,990 --> 00:22:32,320 getting lighter and lighter um 555 00:22:35,909 --> 00:22:34,000 and then after that i just i just went 556 00:22:37,909 --> 00:22:35,919 inside i mean 557 00:22:39,590 --> 00:22:37,919 that's what's so strange to me sometimes 558 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:39,600 is that 559 00:22:43,270 --> 00:22:41,840 you still have to i mean you have a 560 00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:43,280 whole life to live after that 561 00:22:47,110 --> 00:22:45,919 and this this insane thing just happened 562 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:47,120 to you and then 563 00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:49,200 but you still have to you know you still 564 00:22:51,830 --> 00:22:50,480 have to go to school you still have to 565 00:22:54,390 --> 00:22:51,840 go to work you still have to 566 00:22:55,430 --> 00:22:54,400 cook dinner you know i i remember just 567 00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:55,440 going inside and 568 00:22:59,110 --> 00:22:57,679 and like watching tv and playing video 569 00:22:59,990 --> 00:22:59,120 games like this thing just didn't happen 570 00:23:01,909 --> 00:23:00,000 to me 571 00:23:03,750 --> 00:23:01,919 and i think it took a little while for 572 00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:03,760 for it to really set in 573 00:23:07,990 --> 00:23:06,720 uh that i just had this insane 574 00:23:12,870 --> 00:23:08,000 experience that makes 575 00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,880 no sense and uh and yeah i mean i still 576 00:23:16,070 --> 00:23:14,880 a lot of memories are fuzzy for me but 577 00:23:18,390 --> 00:23:16,080 that is 578 00:23:20,789 --> 00:23:18,400 forever burned into my brain the exact 579 00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:20,799 way it happened was just how it looked 580 00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:24,320 how it sounded and how it moved 581 00:23:27,990 --> 00:23:26,640 i don't i don't really tell very many 582 00:23:32,149 --> 00:23:28,000 people in my life 583 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:32,159 i've told friends and family before and 584 00:23:35,990 --> 00:23:35,200 luckily nobody thinks i'm crazy but i do 585 00:23:39,110 --> 00:23:36,000 get the feeling 586 00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:39,120 that people are like yeah we we believe 587 00:23:41,510 --> 00:23:39,679 that you 588 00:23:43,350 --> 00:23:41,520 saw something they they don't know if 589 00:23:45,269 --> 00:23:43,360 it's an alien spacecraft or 590 00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:45,279 or what whatever the hell it was or some 591 00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:46,640 sort of interdimensional 592 00:23:51,669 --> 00:23:48,720 spacecraft but they they think that i 593 00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,679 saw something because i'm so 594 00:23:56,789 --> 00:23:53,840 it was so real for me and i wouldn't 595 00:23:59,590 --> 00:23:56,799 really lie about that sort of thing 596 00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:59,600 the other thing is that i don't have any 597 00:24:03,750 --> 00:24:00,720 history of 598 00:24:05,669 --> 00:24:03,760 schizophrenia in my family um i don't 599 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:05,679 have any history of like 600 00:24:09,909 --> 00:24:08,400 grand mal seizures or epilepsy or 601 00:24:13,269 --> 00:24:09,919 anything 602 00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:13,279 so i don't really i don't have a 603 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,240 physiological explanation for it or 604 00:24:21,110 --> 00:24:18,400 really a mental explanation for it 605 00:24:21,590 --> 00:24:21,120 and and nothing has ever happened since 606 00:24:38,950 --> 00:24:21,600 i 607 00:24:41,990 --> 00:24:38,960 happened that lasted 608 00:24:43,830 --> 00:24:42,000 like 20 seconds uh just this thing came 609 00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:43,840 out of nowhere and said hello and then 610 00:24:48,230 --> 00:24:44,840 just took off 611 00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,240 and i have no explanation i've 612 00:24:51,510 --> 00:24:50,559 been racking my brain ever since i go on 613 00:24:56,149 --> 00:24:51,520 the 614 00:24:57,909 --> 00:24:56,159 couple books about it i really like what 615 00:25:01,029 --> 00:24:57,919 jacques vallet has to say 616 00:25:02,630 --> 00:25:01,039 about the whole uh alien experience or 617 00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:02,640 ufo experience 618 00:25:06,390 --> 00:25:04,400 and i don't even know if it was aliens 619 00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:06,400 or if it was some 620 00:25:13,190 --> 00:25:10,000 insanely exotic military spacecraft 621 00:25:17,990 --> 00:25:13,200 uh if it was one of ours then we 622 00:25:21,029 --> 00:25:18,000 are way more advanced than we know 623 00:25:21,830 --> 00:25:21,039 so so i don't know but yeah that's my 624 00:25:24,789 --> 00:25:21,840 story 625 00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:24,799 and uh hope to hear it on the podcast 626 00:25:36,710 --> 00:25:34,870 what's up guys ryan sprague here and i'm 627 00:25:38,230 --> 00:25:36,720 just dropping in to remind you about our 628 00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,240 patreon campaign 629 00:25:42,310 --> 00:25:40,159 somewhere in the skies is always free to 630 00:25:43,669 --> 00:25:42,320 consume but it's not free to create 631 00:25:45,430 --> 00:25:43,679 so if you want to help the show on a 632 00:25:47,909 --> 00:25:45,440 monthly basis we have 633 00:25:49,669 --> 00:25:47,919 tons of rewards for you in return 634 00:25:52,950 --> 00:25:49,679 including shout outs on the show and 635 00:25:55,909 --> 00:25:52,960 website bonus content and episodes and 636 00:25:57,190 --> 00:25:55,919 free merch wanna be my guest or pick a 637 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:57,200 topic for the show 638 00:26:01,430 --> 00:25:59,360 you can do that too so if you'd like to 639 00:26:04,950 --> 00:26:01,440 learn more and to help support the show 640 00:26:10,950 --> 00:26:04,960 visit patreon.com summerskies 641 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:10,960 thank you and keep looking up 642 00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:13,840 hi ryan my name is nicole morock and i'm 643 00:26:17,190 --> 00:26:15,039 a meteorologist 644 00:26:18,630 --> 00:26:17,200 writer and the producer and host of the 645 00:26:20,310 --> 00:26:18,640 peep podcast 646 00:26:22,310 --> 00:26:20,320 which explores how scientists and 647 00:26:24,070 --> 00:26:22,320 researchers study the paranormal 648 00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,080 and relates that to people who 649 00:26:27,830 --> 00:26:26,000 experience the paranormal 650 00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,840 you could say that my sighting is part 651 00:26:31,590 --> 00:26:30,159 of the reason i have a podcast now 652 00:26:33,590 --> 00:26:31,600 and somewhere in the skies has been an 653 00:26:34,549 --> 00:26:33,600 inspiration to me so i'm excited to 654 00:26:36,950 --> 00:26:34,559 share my story 655 00:26:39,350 --> 00:26:36,960 with you and your listeners this 656 00:26:41,750 --> 00:26:39,360 happened in november of 1997 657 00:26:43,590 --> 00:26:41,760 just south of falls lake and north of 658 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,600 raleigh north carolina 659 00:26:47,830 --> 00:26:45,520 i was driving home from work down 660 00:26:49,269 --> 00:26:47,840 highway 50 which is a two-lane highway 661 00:26:50,230 --> 00:26:49,279 that goes over the lake and through the 662 00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:50,240 woods 663 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:52,240 it was just a little after 5 pm and 664 00:26:56,390 --> 00:26:53,440 still light out but 665 00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:56,400 approaching dusk at that time i was 666 00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,760 about a year out of college with a 667 00:27:00,710 --> 00:26:59,120 communication degree 668 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,720 and hadn't gone back to school for my 669 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,559 meteorology degree yet 670 00:27:07,029 --> 00:27:04,799 i was an editor and office manager for a 671 00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:07,039 small wedding video company 672 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:10,320 that was located just north of the lake 673 00:27:13,510 --> 00:27:11,760 back then there was hardly anything on 674 00:27:15,350 --> 00:27:13,520 that road because development hadn't 675 00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:15,360 spread that far north yet 676 00:27:18,389 --> 00:27:17,279 i was approaching a rare intersection 677 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:18,399 with a stoplight 678 00:27:22,950 --> 00:27:21,440 which was and still is in a clearing and 679 00:27:26,389 --> 00:27:22,960 i was heading south 680 00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,399 to my left or east on the north side of 681 00:27:30,230 --> 00:27:28,720 the intersection was a gas station 682 00:27:31,909 --> 00:27:30,240 step back a bit from the road and the 683 00:27:35,350 --> 00:27:31,919 tree line was at least 50 feet 684 00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:35,360 maybe more behind that there was a man 685 00:27:40,230 --> 00:27:36,880 driving the vehicle in front of me and i 686 00:27:42,310 --> 00:27:40,240 was driving my little red isuzu pickup 687 00:27:44,230 --> 00:27:42,320 the light was red so we were slowing to 688 00:27:45,909 --> 00:27:44,240 a stop 689 00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:45,919 something made me look back to my left 690 00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:47,440 out my side window 691 00:27:50,870 --> 00:27:48,960 it might have been motioned in my side 692 00:27:52,710 --> 00:27:50,880 view mirror but i'm not sure 693 00:27:54,149 --> 00:27:52,720 i looked over my shoulder as i was 694 00:27:57,669 --> 00:27:54,159 stopping the pickup and 695 00:27:59,909 --> 00:27:57,679 i saw two round balls these days 696 00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,919 i'd call them orbs of light but at that 697 00:28:04,470 --> 00:28:01,679 time i didn't really know that word 698 00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:04,480 so i just called them balls they were 699 00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,039 back to the northeast 700 00:28:10,149 --> 00:28:08,480 in height they were close to the top of 701 00:28:11,669 --> 00:28:10,159 the tall pine trees we have all over 702 00:28:13,350 --> 00:28:11,679 north carolina 703 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:13,360 they look to be about the size of beach 704 00:28:19,350 --> 00:28:16,399 balls bigger than a basketball for sure 705 00:28:20,070 --> 00:28:19,360 i don't recall any solid form just two 706 00:28:21,830 --> 00:28:20,080 lights 707 00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:21,840 and i have to admit all these years 708 00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:24,240 later i'm a little fuzzy on the exact 709 00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,799 color 710 00:28:28,149 --> 00:28:26,399 that they started as but i think it was 711 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,159 red 712 00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:30,000 they came from back there and flew 713 00:28:33,190 --> 00:28:32,080 toward the center of the intersection in 714 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:33,200 front of me 715 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:34,960 as they did it was like they were 716 00:28:38,470 --> 00:28:36,640 playing follow the leader 717 00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:38,480 they stayed about four feet apart the 718 00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,679 whole time 719 00:28:44,389 --> 00:28:41,679 and the one in front changed color when 720 00:28:46,310 --> 00:28:44,399 it was parallel to the side of my truck 721 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:46,320 i think it was a yellow just a half 722 00:28:50,310 --> 00:28:47,840 second later you know 723 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:50,320 quickly but definitely delayed the one 724 00:28:55,190 --> 00:28:53,360 behind it changed to the same color 725 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:55,200 when they got over the intersection they 726 00:28:59,430 --> 00:28:57,279 made a sharp turn and went back to 727 00:29:01,190 --> 00:28:59,440 my right or the northwest and headed 728 00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,200 back toward the trees on that side of 729 00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:02,880 the clearing 730 00:29:06,789 --> 00:29:04,880 it all seemed to happen in slow motion 731 00:29:08,389 --> 00:29:06,799 and i remember wondering if the guy in 732 00:29:11,590 --> 00:29:08,399 front of me was seeing the same thing 733 00:29:12,070 --> 00:29:11,600 like he had to right the light turned 734 00:29:15,269 --> 00:29:12,080 green 735 00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,279 and he started driving and so did i 736 00:29:18,549 --> 00:29:17,520 i don't recall seeing them appear or 737 00:29:20,470 --> 00:29:18,559 disappear i just 738 00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,480 watched them as they made this v-shape 739 00:29:24,310 --> 00:29:22,480 in the sky above me 740 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,320 it seemed like they got lower as they 741 00:29:27,350 --> 00:29:26,240 approached the road and higher as they 742 00:29:29,269 --> 00:29:27,360 left 743 00:29:30,630 --> 00:29:29,279 i didn't have to strain my neck to look 744 00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:30,640 up through the windshield to see them in 745 00:29:34,310 --> 00:29:32,080 front of me 746 00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:34,320 it was obviously weird but i wasn't 747 00:29:38,470 --> 00:29:35,440 scared just 748 00:29:40,149 --> 00:29:38,480 really curious like what on earth did i 749 00:29:41,909 --> 00:29:40,159 just see 750 00:29:44,230 --> 00:29:41,919 i grew up hearing stories of others in 751 00:29:46,070 --> 00:29:44,240 my family having seen ufos so maybe 752 00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,080 that's why i didn't freak out 753 00:29:50,389 --> 00:29:47,840 i spent the rest of the drive home which 754 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:50,399 was about seven minutes into raleigh 755 00:29:54,630 --> 00:29:52,960 going over all of it in my head there 756 00:29:56,710 --> 00:29:54,640 were there was nothing 757 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:56,720 attached to the lights if it had been a 758 00:30:00,710 --> 00:29:58,000 helicopter 759 00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:00,720 unless it was completely invisible i 760 00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,320 would have seen it and i'm pretty sure 761 00:30:05,269 --> 00:30:04,080 we still don't have that kind of 762 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:05,279 technology 763 00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,640 at the time i still lived with my 764 00:30:09,669 --> 00:30:07,919 parents and i couldn't wait to tell my 765 00:30:11,110 --> 00:30:09,679 dad when i got home because i was sure 766 00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,120 he'd believe me 767 00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,279 he did but of course he couldn't tell me 768 00:30:16,870 --> 00:30:14,880 what it was either 769 00:30:18,789 --> 00:30:16,880 they reminded me of the drones from star 770 00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:18,799 wars even though there's not technically 771 00:30:22,789 --> 00:30:21,360 anything like that in star wars i'm not 772 00:30:25,269 --> 00:30:22,799 convinced they weren't 773 00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:25,279 terrestrial but as a meteorologist i am 774 00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:26,399 100 775 00:30:29,669 --> 00:30:28,000 sure it wasn't any type of weather 776 00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:29,679 phenomenon or 777 00:30:34,870 --> 00:30:32,960 swamp gas or whatever these seem to be 778 00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,880 under intelligent control and their path 779 00:30:39,750 --> 00:30:36,559 made the shape of a v 780 00:30:41,350 --> 00:30:39,760 over the intersection i've met quite a 781 00:30:42,870 --> 00:30:41,360 few meteorologists over the year that 782 00:30:45,110 --> 00:30:42,880 work in the dod 783 00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:45,120 army and air force and some of them have 784 00:30:51,190 --> 00:30:47,840 pretty high clearances 785 00:30:54,389 --> 00:30:51,200 i've asked each one if they have ever 786 00:30:55,350 --> 00:30:54,399 heard or seen anything like that and all 787 00:30:57,990 --> 00:30:55,360 of them have said 788 00:30:58,789 --> 00:30:58,000 no and even the ones with the higher 789 00:31:00,630 --> 00:30:58,799 clearances 790 00:31:01,990 --> 00:31:00,640 have had the look on their face that 791 00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:02,000 said they were not lying 792 00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:05,360 so even if they could have said yes 793 00:31:08,789 --> 00:31:08,000 but were not supposed to and still said 794 00:31:14,070 --> 00:31:08,799 no 795 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,080 never seen anything like that and i 796 00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:15,840 believe them 797 00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:17,360 i've always been fascinated with the 798 00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,039 unknown and this experience 799 00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:21,919 just cemented my interest in uap i'm not 800 00:31:25,110 --> 00:31:23,120 quite obsessed 801 00:31:27,350 --> 00:31:25,120 but i watch as many documentaries as i 802 00:31:28,230 --> 00:31:27,360 can and listen to your podcast and 803 00:31:30,310 --> 00:31:28,240 others 804 00:31:32,389 --> 00:31:30,320 hoping to hear someone describe 805 00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,399 something similar 806 00:31:36,310 --> 00:31:34,799 so far in all the years i've been 807 00:31:39,110 --> 00:31:36,320 waiting 808 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:39,120 nobody has maybe someone out there is 809 00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:40,960 waiting to hear my story so they can 810 00:31:44,870 --> 00:31:43,200 relate to it too 811 00:31:47,590 --> 00:31:44,880 anyway thanks so much for doing what you 812 00:31:49,350 --> 00:31:47,600 do you do a great job of covering this 813 00:31:50,389 --> 00:31:49,360 topic from a grounded balanced 814 00:31:52,870 --> 00:31:50,399 perspective 815 00:31:53,990 --> 00:31:52,880 and you keep the focus on how it affects 816 00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,000 the experiencers 817 00:32:00,549 --> 00:31:56,799 and that is so important keep up the 818 00:32:03,029 --> 00:32:00,559 good work 819 00:32:03,909 --> 00:32:03,039 hey ryan uh thanks for the opportunity 820 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:03,919 to share this 821 00:32:10,470 --> 00:32:07,120 brief but i hope slightly different 822 00:32:14,549 --> 00:32:10,480 uh sighting story uh my name is mark 823 00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:14,559 and this uh happened in 1991. 824 00:32:18,070 --> 00:32:16,240 i can't believe it's been nearly 30 825 00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,080 years but um 826 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:20,480 it has and i still think about it quite 827 00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:22,000 a bit 828 00:32:28,470 --> 00:32:25,039 so at the time my buddy 829 00:32:30,710 --> 00:32:28,480 todd and i were in our early 20s and 830 00:32:31,909 --> 00:32:30,720 he had become part owner of a small boat 831 00:32:35,190 --> 00:32:31,919 that was docked 832 00:32:36,310 --> 00:32:35,200 in lorraine ohio which is about 30 miles 833 00:32:39,029 --> 00:32:36,320 west of cleveland 834 00:32:40,830 --> 00:32:39,039 on lake erie and one evening that summer 835 00:32:42,789 --> 00:32:40,840 the two of us took the boat out of the 836 00:32:44,470 --> 00:32:42,799 marina 837 00:32:46,070 --> 00:32:44,480 and we were just cruising around 838 00:32:47,990 --> 00:32:46,080 listening to music 839 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:48,000 stopping to fish on occasion if we felt 840 00:32:51,350 --> 00:32:49,120 like it and 841 00:32:52,789 --> 00:32:51,360 basically just enjoying a summer night 842 00:32:54,549 --> 00:32:52,799 on the water 843 00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:54,559 and it was super calm that night there 844 00:32:59,430 --> 00:32:56,480 were no waves and 845 00:33:00,149 --> 00:32:59,440 if there was any wind it was minimal but 846 00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:00,159 it 847 00:33:11,029 --> 00:33:09,519 a mile offshore 848 00:33:13,909 --> 00:33:11,039 the motor was cut and motor wasn't 849 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:13,919 running we were in the back of the boat 850 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:17,840 just chilling facing east and 851 00:33:24,630 --> 00:33:22,080 we saw this small white light maybe 852 00:33:26,389 --> 00:33:24,640 50 yards to the southeast i'm 853 00:33:29,430 --> 00:33:26,399 guesstimating 854 00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:29,440 but that seems to be pretty accurate 855 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,880 and the light was looked to be just off 856 00:33:36,389 --> 00:33:34,399 the surface of the water 857 00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:36,399 it was kind of hard to tell at that 858 00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:37,840 first sighting 859 00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,559 um and it didn't look very big but it 860 00:33:45,990 --> 00:33:42,240 was blinking on and off 861 00:33:46,950 --> 00:33:46,000 uh rhythmically and very consistently 862 00:33:49,190 --> 00:33:46,960 maybe 863 00:33:50,830 --> 00:33:49,200 um in one and a half second increments 864 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,840 so it was like 865 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:53,440 blink blink 866 00:33:57,430 --> 00:33:56,240 blink like that and it looked to be 867 00:34:00,870 --> 00:33:57,440 coming towards us 868 00:34:03,909 --> 00:34:00,880 and as we watched it it was definitely 869 00:34:05,990 --> 00:34:03,919 coming closer to us and 870 00:34:08,069 --> 00:34:06,000 we could tell it wasn't very big at all 871 00:34:09,589 --> 00:34:08,079 and it was making no noise 872 00:34:11,589 --> 00:34:09,599 and we're both watching it and 873 00:34:12,950 --> 00:34:11,599 commenting you know the the usual things 874 00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,960 you would say when you're 875 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:14,399 looking at something that you don't 876 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:16,000 understand is you know like what the 877 00:34:18,950 --> 00:34:17,520 hell is this thing and 878 00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:18,960 we're wondering if maybe it was a 879 00:34:25,190 --> 00:34:21,679 firefly or 880 00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,200 some kind of insect but the light 881 00:34:32,710 --> 00:34:28,960 when it was on was was a pure white 882 00:34:35,349 --> 00:34:32,720 and it was spherical and when it wasn't 883 00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:35,359 on in between blanks you couldn't see 884 00:34:39,510 --> 00:34:36,879 any outline or any shape 885 00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:39,520 so it was very hard to tell what this 886 00:34:44,470 --> 00:34:42,000 thing actually looked like 887 00:34:45,589 --> 00:34:44,480 if it had a shape at all but it 888 00:34:49,909 --> 00:34:45,599 continued 889 00:34:51,589 --> 00:34:49,919 towards us on a perfectly straight line 890 00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:51,599 and it wasn't changing altitude it 891 00:34:56,710 --> 00:34:53,200 wasn't changing its height 892 00:34:58,630 --> 00:34:56,720 whatsoever and it was probably three 893 00:35:01,990 --> 00:34:58,640 feet above the water 894 00:35:04,150 --> 00:35:02,000 so as it got closer we were watching 895 00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:04,160 it intently we're standing up trying to 896 00:35:08,710 --> 00:35:06,240 make sense of this thing coming at us 897 00:35:10,150 --> 00:35:08,720 and it got probably within 10 feet of 898 00:35:12,870 --> 00:35:10,160 the stern of the boat 899 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,880 as it passed by and you could tell that 900 00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:13,920 it was 901 00:35:17,589 --> 00:35:16,240 maybe the size of a tennis ball when it 902 00:35:20,550 --> 00:35:17,599 was lit 903 00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,560 the the the lit orb was the size of a 904 00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,560 tennis ball 905 00:35:27,750 --> 00:35:24,960 um and again no sound we kept listening 906 00:35:30,230 --> 00:35:27,760 for sound it made no sound 907 00:35:31,990 --> 00:35:30,240 and watching for any deviation in this 908 00:35:33,829 --> 00:35:32,000 flight path that it was on but it never 909 00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:33,839 deviated at all 910 00:35:41,589 --> 00:35:36,880 and we just continued to watch it 911 00:35:43,670 --> 00:35:41,599 wide-eyed as it flew uh northwest 912 00:35:44,950 --> 00:35:43,680 on the same line until it was out of 913 00:35:48,310 --> 00:35:44,960 sight 914 00:35:48,710 --> 00:35:48,320 over the horizon in the dark and to this 915 00:35:51,910 --> 00:35:48,720 day 916 00:35:54,069 --> 00:35:51,920 i have no clue what this thing was 917 00:35:56,870 --> 00:35:54,079 um todd and i are still friends we still 918 00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:56,880 keep in touch regularly and 919 00:36:02,390 --> 00:36:00,560 um we will revisit the event on occasion 920 00:36:03,910 --> 00:36:02,400 and neither of us have any more clarity 921 00:36:06,790 --> 00:36:03,920 now than we did back then 922 00:36:07,750 --> 00:36:06,800 and we just shake our heads over it i 923 00:36:10,870 --> 00:36:07,760 have no clue 924 00:36:12,230 --> 00:36:10,880 um and i'm i've always been interested 925 00:36:16,150 --> 00:36:12,240 in the ufo 926 00:36:18,390 --> 00:36:16,160 topic and i've kept up on 927 00:36:19,190 --> 00:36:18,400 incredible sighting reports and whatnot 928 00:36:21,670 --> 00:36:19,200 and 929 00:36:22,870 --> 00:36:21,680 i have yet to come across a similar 930 00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:22,880 sighting 931 00:36:26,710 --> 00:36:24,880 and would love to know if anybody 932 00:36:29,349 --> 00:36:26,720 listening out there has 933 00:36:30,950 --> 00:36:29,359 seen something similar especially in the 934 00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:30,960 great lakes area or 935 00:36:35,510 --> 00:36:34,000 lake erie in particular if you have 936 00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:35,520 please get in touch with ryan i would 937 00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:37,040 love to talk to you 938 00:36:43,829 --> 00:36:40,480 um but the uh 939 00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:43,839 the event had uh a profound effect 940 00:36:48,069 --> 00:36:46,480 um like i said i still think about it 941 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:48,079 today 942 00:36:52,150 --> 00:36:50,320 i still wonder what the heck this thing 943 00:36:55,030 --> 00:36:52,160 was 944 00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:55,040 and i don't know that that's really the 945 00:36:59,109 --> 00:36:55,839 gist of it 946 00:37:03,030 --> 00:36:59,119 so thank you for the opportunity to 947 00:37:08,230 --> 00:37:06,829 hi my name is kyle and uh this is my 948 00:37:11,829 --> 00:37:08,240 sighting 949 00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:11,839 in 2003 i was living in the town 950 00:37:15,829 --> 00:37:14,720 of belvedere illinois and my brother and 951 00:37:19,349 --> 00:37:15,839 i were playing 952 00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:19,359 um horse in our driveway and we had 953 00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:23,520 a hoop that was on our garage and it was 954 00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:26,560 facing west and my brother had tossed 955 00:37:32,230 --> 00:37:29,119 the ball in and bounced off the hoop 956 00:37:32,710 --> 00:37:32,240 and i go to follow the hoop with my eyes 957 00:37:36,310 --> 00:37:32,720 as it 958 00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:36,320 goes into the trees and i see this dark 959 00:37:44,069 --> 00:37:39,680 charcoal colored triangular shape 960 00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:44,079 and it was probably 2000 to 2500 feet in 961 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,040 the air 962 00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:48,160 almost almost directly above and 963 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,760 to the front or to the west of us and 964 00:37:56,790 --> 00:37:54,079 it didn't have any like solid edges it 965 00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:56,800 was all rounded on the sides 966 00:38:00,950 --> 00:37:59,680 and the back and in the back in a 967 00:38:04,150 --> 00:38:00,960 recessed section 968 00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:04,160 there were two like 969 00:38:11,910 --> 00:38:07,520 circle nozzles on each side and 970 00:38:12,710 --> 00:38:11,920 a longer uh elongated oval in the center 971 00:38:15,750 --> 00:38:12,720 but it was 972 00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:15,760 like recessed inside of the 973 00:38:21,750 --> 00:38:19,520 that flat that edge of the triangle 974 00:38:22,950 --> 00:38:21,760 and i looked at my brother and i was 975 00:38:25,030 --> 00:38:22,960 like 976 00:38:26,390 --> 00:38:25,040 what's that at the time i was really 977 00:38:29,510 --> 00:38:26,400 interested in 978 00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:29,520 you know our modern jets and uh mostly 979 00:38:33,750 --> 00:38:31,599 world war ii aircraft 980 00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,760 and i was like i i've never seen 981 00:38:37,109 --> 00:38:34,960 anything like that 982 00:38:39,589 --> 00:38:37,119 and uh that weekend we were supposed to 983 00:38:42,630 --> 00:38:39,599 go to our grandparents house 984 00:38:44,630 --> 00:38:42,640 and um we did 985 00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,640 and i we talked to my my 986 00:38:48,550 --> 00:38:46,079 step-grandfather about it 987 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:48,560 and we spent two hours on the internet 988 00:38:50,790 --> 00:38:50,000 trying to find something that matched 989 00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:50,800 our description 990 00:38:58,550 --> 00:38:54,640 and we never found it 991 00:39:01,829 --> 00:38:58,560 and shortly after that i started having 992 00:39:04,069 --> 00:39:01,839 bouts of um 993 00:39:05,109 --> 00:39:04,079 sleep paralysis i would wake up in the 994 00:39:08,870 --> 00:39:05,119 middle of the night 995 00:39:11,430 --> 00:39:08,880 and i would be frozen 996 00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:11,440 and i couldn't move my fingers or my 997 00:39:16,870 --> 00:39:12,960 toes 998 00:39:20,230 --> 00:39:16,880 and i couldn't scream and 999 00:39:23,430 --> 00:39:20,240 it was really hard 1000 00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:23,440 and i didn't know what to do about it um 1001 00:39:28,950 --> 00:39:26,720 i continued having the sleep paralysis 1002 00:39:30,310 --> 00:39:28,960 for years after that and i eventually 1003 00:39:32,950 --> 00:39:30,320 just 1004 00:39:35,990 --> 00:39:32,960 figured out that i had to relax and 1005 00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:36,000 breathe and close my eyes and focus on 1006 00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:39,440 moving things that to get my body 1007 00:39:43,910 --> 00:39:40,839 working again 1008 00:39:47,030 --> 00:39:43,920 and um 1009 00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,040 shortly after the first incident 1010 00:39:51,270 --> 00:39:50,079 i was getting off the bus with my friend 1011 00:39:54,230 --> 00:39:51,280 nick 1012 00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:54,240 and as we got off the bus we saw these 1013 00:39:58,470 --> 00:39:55,520 two jets chase 1014 00:40:00,470 --> 00:39:58,480 something that was smoldering in the air 1015 00:40:02,950 --> 00:40:00,480 and we asked our 1016 00:40:05,190 --> 00:40:02,960 reading teacher the next day who was a 1017 00:40:06,390 --> 00:40:05,200 air force reservist 1018 00:40:08,150 --> 00:40:06,400 and she said that she didn't know 1019 00:40:10,390 --> 00:40:08,160 anything about it she'd ask and we of 1020 00:40:14,790 --> 00:40:10,400 course never heard anything 1021 00:40:18,309 --> 00:40:14,800 but um after that 1022 00:40:21,829 --> 00:40:18,319 um i started having real 1023 00:40:24,069 --> 00:40:21,839 vivid uh lucid dreams and uh that's 1024 00:40:26,630 --> 00:40:24,079 something i still have to this day i i 1025 00:40:29,990 --> 00:40:26,640 don't until recently i didn't 1026 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:30,000 correlate these incidents and 1027 00:40:35,910 --> 00:40:33,280 put them together but it seems that 1028 00:40:37,109 --> 00:40:35,920 it's something that happens to people 1029 00:40:40,230 --> 00:40:37,119 who witness 1030 00:40:47,190 --> 00:40:40,240 the dark triangles and 1031 00:40:54,390 --> 00:40:50,790 hi my name is jake um on 1032 00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:54,400 the 9th of september 2020 uh which was a 1033 00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:55,599 sunday 1034 00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,839 my best friend and i who is here with me 1035 00:41:04,230 --> 00:40:59,200 hi my name is bruce 1036 00:41:07,190 --> 00:41:04,240 um saw a boomerang-shaped craft 1037 00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:07,200 ufo uap whatever you want to call it fly 1038 00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:07,680 over 1039 00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:10,400 our house in the middle of downtown 1040 00:41:14,470 --> 00:41:11,520 plant city 1041 00:41:16,630 --> 00:41:14,480 um if you don't know where that is that 1042 00:41:19,190 --> 00:41:16,640 is uh 1043 00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,200 oh it's um it's a small town east of 1044 00:41:23,030 --> 00:41:21,040 tampa but west of lakeland yeah there 1045 00:41:26,710 --> 00:41:23,040 you go east of tampa west of lakeland 1046 00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,720 um it was downtown 1047 00:41:30,550 --> 00:41:28,480 we live in what's called the historic 1048 00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,560 district probably a 1049 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:32,480 three three or four minute walk from 1050 00:41:38,390 --> 00:41:34,960 what's considered downtown plant city 1051 00:41:41,750 --> 00:41:38,400 and um i just got off work that night 1052 00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:41,760 i picked up bruce and we went down to 1053 00:41:47,430 --> 00:41:42,720 wendy's to 1054 00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:47,440 get some food we came back 1055 00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,280 sat in my car for a little bit and we 1056 00:41:55,510 --> 00:41:51,599 started listening to an episode of 1057 00:41:59,109 --> 00:41:55,520 the podcast it was episode uh volume 4 1058 00:42:00,550 --> 00:41:59,119 of eyewitness accounts um that one's the 1059 00:42:02,069 --> 00:42:00,560 one with the dude 1060 00:42:04,550 --> 00:42:02,079 whose wife goes outside while she's 1061 00:42:06,550 --> 00:42:04,560 smoking and uh 1062 00:42:09,190 --> 00:42:06,560 sees the craft fly over his house and 1063 00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:09,200 he's the sheriff deputy and [\h__\h] 1064 00:42:17,030 --> 00:42:13,680 um and uh we finished up the episode 1065 00:42:19,990 --> 00:42:17,040 uh on that story specifically and 1066 00:42:21,349 --> 00:42:20,000 you know getting the stuff out of my car 1067 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:21,359 getting my phone put my phone in my 1068 00:42:24,950 --> 00:42:21,839 pocket 1069 00:42:27,109 --> 00:42:24,960 um opened the door took 1070 00:42:28,630 --> 00:42:27,119 two or three steps and i'm standing 1071 00:42:32,230 --> 00:42:28,640 behind 1072 00:42:35,109 --> 00:42:32,240 bruce's car which uh we didn't take 1073 00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:35,119 and i just happened to look up and when 1074 00:42:40,390 --> 00:42:36,560 i look up 1075 00:42:44,069 --> 00:42:40,400 i see um a boomerang-shaped craft 1076 00:42:47,510 --> 00:42:44,079 like exactly a boomerang the exact same 1077 00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:47,520 shape to my uh to me it was uh 1078 00:42:54,150 --> 00:42:50,960 black and white it was 1079 00:42:56,309 --> 00:42:54,160 almost completely black except on the 1080 00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:56,319 border of the craft 1081 00:43:03,510 --> 00:43:00,079 there was about i don't know a 1082 00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,520 thick line of white and uh 1083 00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:06,000 on the white line were orbs that 1084 00:43:10,870 --> 00:43:08,000 surrounded the entire craft 1085 00:43:12,710 --> 00:43:10,880 on the outside but the inside of the 1086 00:43:15,510 --> 00:43:12,720 craft was black 1087 00:43:17,270 --> 00:43:15,520 and um i watched it and it was going 1088 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,280 slow i mean 1089 00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:19,920 you know 20 30 miles an hour and it was 1090 00:43:26,470 --> 00:43:22,400 so low and quiet it was 1091 00:43:28,630 --> 00:43:26,480 not even 20 you know 200 feet above us 1092 00:43:30,710 --> 00:43:28,640 and you know i watch it for about three 1093 00:43:32,790 --> 00:43:30,720 seconds before i 1094 00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:32,800 get the sense in me to turn around and 1095 00:43:35,430 --> 00:43:33,920 slap bruce 1096 00:43:36,790 --> 00:43:35,440 and i turn around and hit him on the 1097 00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,800 shoulder and say look at this [\h__\h] 1098 00:43:40,630 --> 00:43:38,640 thing holy [\h__\h] 1099 00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,640 and he turns around looks up and sees it 1100 00:43:45,750 --> 00:43:42,079 and you know 1101 00:43:48,710 --> 00:43:45,760 bruce you wanna it took a moment 1102 00:43:50,390 --> 00:43:48,720 to realize what exactly i was looking at 1103 00:43:51,910 --> 00:43:50,400 because of the fact that it takes you a 1104 00:43:54,630 --> 00:43:51,920 moment to realize that you're looking at 1105 00:43:57,910 --> 00:43:54,640 something you've never seen before 1106 00:44:00,069 --> 00:43:57,920 but overall it looked exactly as jake 1107 00:44:01,430 --> 00:44:00,079 as jake described it but i would say 1108 00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:01,440 that 1109 00:44:05,030 --> 00:44:03,359 it gave me the impression of being 1110 00:44:07,990 --> 00:44:05,040 something meant for 1111 00:44:10,150 --> 00:44:08,000 reconnaissance if anything that's what 1112 00:44:13,349 --> 00:44:10,160 it seemed like to me it seemed like it 1113 00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:13,359 was observing what it flew over 1114 00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:16,800 um so yeah uh 1115 00:44:22,390 --> 00:44:20,240 and so we watched it and um we just 1116 00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,400 kind of sat there and watched it for 1117 00:44:26,870 --> 00:44:23,680 another few seconds 1118 00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:26,880 fly behind a tree uh that's 1119 00:44:34,390 --> 00:44:31,040 in a neighbor's yard behind our house 1120 00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:34,400 and uh we stood there for a few seconds 1121 00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:36,079 afterward kind of freaking out 1122 00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:39,280 because i've been into the ufo 1123 00:44:46,309 --> 00:44:41,839 phenomenon for most my life so 1124 00:44:48,950 --> 00:44:46,319 seeing something like this just 1125 00:44:50,630 --> 00:44:48,960 fly over your house in the middle of the 1126 00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:50,640 night 1127 00:44:57,270 --> 00:44:53,920 it just kind of gets you going and 1128 00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:57,280 uh i freaked out for a little bit and 1129 00:45:01,109 --> 00:44:59,119 bruce is trying to calm me down and i 1130 00:45:04,309 --> 00:45:01,119 finally get my sense together and 1131 00:45:07,990 --> 00:45:04,319 you know it was going kind of southeast 1132 00:45:09,829 --> 00:45:08,000 south direction and um i tell bruce to 1133 00:45:11,030 --> 00:45:09,839 hop in my car because i want to see if i 1134 00:45:13,990 --> 00:45:11,040 can go 1135 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:14,000 see this thing again as it's flying so 1136 00:45:18,470 --> 00:45:16,480 you know i know that 1137 00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,480 south of where we're facing is highway 1138 00:45:21,910 --> 00:45:20,880 39 which leads out into an area called 1139 00:45:24,790 --> 00:45:21,920 lithia 1140 00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:24,800 which is where my dad's family is from 1141 00:45:27,589 --> 00:45:25,760 and 1142 00:45:29,190 --> 00:45:27,599 my dad has had his own share of 1143 00:45:31,750 --> 00:45:29,200 experiences you know we don't really 1144 00:45:35,109 --> 00:45:31,760 talk about him much but uh 1145 00:45:36,790 --> 00:45:35,119 he's had his share and you know i'm not 1146 00:45:39,589 --> 00:45:36,800 saying these this craft and his 1147 00:45:42,150 --> 00:45:39,599 experiences are related at all but 1148 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:42,160 the way that this craft was flying was 1149 00:45:47,030 --> 00:45:43,680 the direction 1150 00:45:50,950 --> 00:45:47,040 of almost exactly where i believe 1151 00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:50,960 that area is so i got on my car and we 1152 00:45:54,309 --> 00:45:52,560 tried looking for it again but we just 1153 00:45:55,990 --> 00:45:54,319 couldn't find it and we finally drove 1154 00:46:00,230 --> 00:45:56,000 for about 1155 00:46:02,069 --> 00:46:00,240 35 45 minutes onto highway 39. 1156 00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:02,079 and we didn't see nothing and we kind of 1157 00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:05,200 just turned around went back home 1158 00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:08,160 went to bed like normal nothing else 1159 00:46:12,470 --> 00:46:09,119 really happened 1160 00:46:15,870 --> 00:46:12,480 uh we told my parents 1161 00:46:17,430 --> 00:46:15,880 told my dad he was intrigued 1162 00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:17,440 [Music] 1163 00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:20,000 told my girlfriend and that's about it 1164 00:46:25,190 --> 00:46:22,000 that's all that came of it um 1165 00:46:27,349 --> 00:46:25,200 in my opinion you know there's a few air 1166 00:46:29,109 --> 00:46:27,359 force bases around here 1167 00:46:31,750 --> 00:46:29,119 is one of the biggest ones right mcdo's 1168 00:46:34,309 --> 00:46:31,760 the air force yeah um 1169 00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:34,319 mcdill's not too far it's over in tampa 1170 00:46:36,790 --> 00:46:35,119 so 1171 00:46:39,109 --> 00:46:36,800 it would make sense that this is 1172 00:46:42,150 --> 00:46:39,119 actually you know maybe just kind of 1173 00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:42,160 a secret military craft or something 1174 00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:45,920 but even if it is like we get a why come 1175 00:46:51,270 --> 00:46:46,800 over 1176 00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,280 downtown plant city florida just 1177 00:46:55,030 --> 00:46:53,359 you know where god and everybody can see 1178 00:46:57,670 --> 00:46:55,040 i mean it's not an 1179 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,680 unpopulated area where we're at i don't 1180 00:47:02,470 --> 00:46:59,040 know how i 1181 00:47:05,190 --> 00:47:02,480 you know reiterate this enough but 1182 00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:05,200 it's so mind-boggling that a military 1183 00:47:08,870 --> 00:47:06,240 craft 1184 00:47:10,069 --> 00:47:08,880 that if this was one this secret would 1185 00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:10,079 just 1186 00:47:16,870 --> 00:47:13,839 slowly quietly make its way 1187 00:47:19,510 --> 00:47:16,880 over some houses for fun yeah 1188 00:47:21,030 --> 00:47:19,520 bruce you want to add anything um i 1189 00:47:33,430 --> 00:47:21,040 don't have much to add no 1190 00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:35,349 somewhere in the skies is produced by 1191 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,640 third kind productions